I didn’t have any extra shoe strings but I did have some short sections of paracord, and that worked well. I was a high 30s sporting clays league shooter. We'd recommend this gun if you're looking for a quality semi-automatic shotgun. It's perfect and I like the high rib a lot. Rather than fix the three inch Vinci pistol grip, Benelli decided to make the change on the 3-1/2 inch Vinci, but ignored the three inch model. So is the bolt handle and the pin that holds in the trigger group. Again, rather than fix these potential issues, Benelli again wants you to buy a brand new gun, the Ethos, which is too light and too expensive to have mainstream appeal. In the specific case of my grandfather, it had to, for that was the only firearm he owned. The A-5 was the only gun that Browning Arms Company (founded after the death of John M. Browning) sold for a time. P.S. Nor did most folks obsess over ribs and beads, as a raised/ventilated rib was deemed unnecessary for hunting purposes. Weatherby offers their SA-08 models, made by ATA in Turkey. The receiver is not drilled and tapped for a rail or optic. If you are feeling a bit strapped for cash, consider the Mossberg 930, Remington V3, or Weatherby SA-08. They function dirty or wet and the only thing that tends to stop them is running them dry. You have entered an incorrect email address! © COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Family day was two weeks after I purchased the Montefeltro, and that felt like an eternity. (Nor do many shooters like the "double shuffle" recoil of the A-5, which actually increases the felt recoil. These are all gas operated guns with three inch chambers. It is also glock ugly. Benelli took the Ethos which was already no one's bargain at $2099 with a nickel-plated aluminum receiver, added a bit wider rib and barrel porting, then jacked the price to $2269. Mine was intended primarily as a hunting gun with a side of clays. SBE2, SBE3, M2, R1, Montefeltro, SuperSport, Cordoba, SuperNova, Ethos & Legacy Drop Lock Plate. Now the montefeltro silver is rather pretty. Sights: Fiber optic front, mid bead When introduced just a few years ago, it was a groundbreaking design, and today it is offered in several gauges, styles, and variations. Benelli did a classy job engraving their name and logo into the forend. I have also shot Rio, Remington and Federal #7.5 or #8 game loads. This one was $20 cheaper in store than any online price, due to a store discount I was getting last year before the store closed their doors. If you had to use just one shotgun for pheasant hunting, what would it be? All my Dog guy friends wanted me to hunt with the so that they knew that “if it flied, it died”. If anyone is reading this and hasn’t tried sporting clays, it’s like golf, but better because guns. In the United States, the L4S marks Fabarm's first venture into the lightweight hunting gun field, and the XLR5 Waterfowler is coming out soon. Appearance and Style: * * * * Don’t want to scuff that new blue! -Editor.). However, they are low-maintenance guns with a 10 year warranty that define the old Bruno Civolani action. One of the harshest-kicking gas actions, the original A400 Xplor Unico was a problem gun. While this approach can work for a good long while for long recoil and some kinematic / inertia guns, it is not the best approach with gas actions. The models sold prior to my Monte included plastic shims to adjust the stock for drop and cast, but Benelli now lists them separately on their website. Benelli calls it the Progressive Comfort System, and it has some very unique traits. This was the case with my great-grandfather, grandfather and even my father for much of his life. The Montefeltro has a lightweight aluminum receiver. Subjectively I find this sticks out like a GLOCK at a 1911 convention. My m2 came from the factory very tightly fitted. This shotgun, though, has been very kind to me. The modern inertia action was invented by Bruno Civolani and is synonymous with the Benelli brand in many circles. The ETHOS shotgun line has proven to be an elegant and reliable shotgun incorporating Benelli's latest innovations, refinements, and design superiority. Wow what a difference! I laughed out loud, for 11/16 ounce of shot is a .410 bore load or a substandard 28 gauge load. This year, at least in the arena of autoloading shotguns, the Benelli Ethos has generated more commentary than anything else in the category, even though the “Benelli Raffaello Power Bore 12” isn't strictly new, just new to the U.S. The Franchi Affinity, an inertia gun, is assembled at the Benelli facility in Urbino, Italy. Only the more "sophisticated" hunters bothered with 1-1/2 ounce 2-3/4 inch magnums for geese or turkey. So I went with the Montefeltro with a 26″ barrel. I truly forgot how much fun moving targets were to shoot. Last year I handled multiple versions of the benelli and beretta 20 gauge autos and I went with the Montefeltro. The Benelli Vinci is, at least according to Benelli, the first shotgun made entirely by automation with no human intervention. MSRP: $1,129 (high $900s retail). Father’s day was coming soon and I hadn’t added a new firearm to the safe in a while. Hardly "Simply Perfect," as Benelli likes to brag, not even close. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. New Jersey Drops Firearm And Ammunition Charges Against Roosevelt Twyne, Attorney Says Man Was Sleeping When Maryland SWAT Team Opened Fire on His House, Killing Him, 82-Year-Old Marine Beats a Home Intruder To Death With a Shotgun, Diamondback DBX57 Video Review: 5.7x28mm Piston-Driven Pistol, Class 3 Machining and My Suppressed Ruger-57 [VIDEO]. I havent’ shot clays much lately and am nowhere near the shot I was back then. After 4 days in Argentina with my Benelli 20 and about 4000 shells I came back a mid 40s shooter. There are no short-recoil shotguns of any consequence in production. The Benelli M2 is a semi-automatic shotgun while the Montefeltro is a bolt/single shotgun. The quest for the good autoloading shotgun used to be easier, back in the the day. I wasn’t worried about recoil in a 20 gauge so I focused on known reliability. The fit of the charging handle was so tight I could not for the life of me free it from the bolt group. Accuracy: * * * * * Photos by: Rab Cummings I’ve lost track of the number of Benellis I’ve shot and owned over the years. The standard Benelli Montefeltro and M2 models are classic fare and they rate as good guns. A 7-1/4 pound gun, currently offered in synthetic stocked versions, but with a low price (starting at $675 or so). I like the classic look of the Montefeltro vs the Beretta. I had trouble getting the fore end off the first time. Most are easy to clean, though, and it often takes longer to describe it than to actually do it. Ethos Upland Performance Shop Starting Price: $2,999 Browning choke tubes are often not the best, but good aftermarket tubes are widely available. I haven’t seen a 20 guage that low though. The inertia system with chrome barrel and chamber makes for a very clean and easy to clean gun. By comparison, the gas Browning leaves more residue on the cleaning rags after 50 rounds than the Monte does with over 500 rounds. I will try to run down the basic autoloading action types, the better offerings in those action types and why you might wish to consider one over the other. View Features. Just wondering, how long did it take you to carefully set that little beauty in the rack before you took the pic? I’ve had my 20 ga M2 since 2011 and the forend is still pretty tight. I have let the Montefeltro go 550 shells between cleaning and the filth just wasn’t there.One patch wiped clean the receiver, bolt carrier and the trigger group. Otherwise, it has cycled everything from pigeon loads down to subsonic 15/16 ounce Winchester Feathers." I agree 100%! The SKB brand launched a Turkish made, dedicated clays inertia gun, the IS300 / RS300 target, in late 2013 that also hasn't gained much traction in the marketplace. By Phil Bourjaily. The contrasting beautiful satin walnut stocks are a perfect contrast (the gun is also available with synthetic furniture). The A400, in 12 gauge, rates as a good gun today; the smaller gauges not so much. I have both, and love to shoot them both - but I don't take the Montefeltro into the duck blind. None of them were commercially successful. For the 10 year warranty and a stronger brand name, the Benelli M2 and Benelli Montefeltro are low-maintenance workhorses, albeit at a high price. The modern gas action significantly reduces felt recoil and that alone makes gas action autoloaders the preferred choice for high volume shooting. Since I purchased ghe shotgun the only thing I have added is a Carlson’s extended skeet choke. Copyright 2016 by Randy Wakeman. As far as I'm concerned, the Fabarm L4S is the best finished, best overall autoloader on the market. The long recoil action was the only autoloading shotgun action that actually worked for many decades. This is the least expensive semi-auto shotgun produced by Benelli. Benelli Montefeltro: Best Pheasant Hunting Shotgun. This is the best machined, most polished firearm component I’ve ever held in my hands and it slipped right out of them onto the carpet. I sold a sweet 12 gauge Montefeltro at my store last month. Dropping a gun like the Montefeltro pictured above into the drink is a good way to add a lot of unnecessary anxiety & disappointment to one’s day…no matter how many birds they bagged. Reliability: * * * * * I have tested several and they are good, solid, reliable autoloaders with better than average triggers and a good warranty. It is easy to point, chokes work as they should, 60/40 pattern isn’t unusual on a hunting shotgun. It is a 6-3/4 pound, walnut stocked gas gun with the best customer service in the industry. Model Number: 10865 I also knew that I wanted to have something nice to use for a long time and for multiple purposes. Re: Benelli Ethos or Montefeltro Post by tailcracken pointer » Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:27 am I know this is a old post but for those of you curious its apples and oranges I have both and the ethos shoots better less recoil smoother trigger and you come down quicker and on birds lots faster , you can hardly feel it kick a buddy of mine shot it and had one the next month It was $750 on sale. Proved to me that high volume shooting has its benefits. Or even the ethos to the m2? I had already been through the decision-making process choosing the Browning Silver Field for her. Aluminum alloy receivers can be made faster and cheaper. Very tightly fitted gun that feels good to the shoulder. The benelli M2 fits me like a glove. These are the only Turkish made autoloaders I can recommend. They are excellent gas guns using the "two piston" idea that works quite well. I’m short armed and the gun felt good in the store, but not on the course. The standard Benelli Montefeltro and M2 models are classic fare and they rate as good guns. I plan to keep and use this shotgun for an extended length of time and may even consider adding a second Benelli with synthetic stocks for those aquatic places. Anytime you wanna try it out again just let me know. I’ll avoid the system (pump vs. semi-auto) and manufacture (U.S.A./Italian/Turkish/…) discussions but when it comes to waterfowl hunting, go with synthetic furniture. While all my time with the Benelli Montefeltro has been at shotgun ranges, I hope to take a gobbler this spring and have plans to head south to Ohio for a September dove hunt. Designed by John M. Browning in 1898, the Browning Automatic-Five was first produced by FN (Belgium) in 1902 and licensed to Remington Arms in 1905, who produced it as their Model 11 until 1947. The second-best selling autoloading shotgun in history (behind the Remington 1100), the Auto-5 is no longer made. They are good guns. I’m confident this Benelli can handle both and I can’t wait to give it a try. Now that the original Civolani patents have expired, there is a glut of inertia models on the market. The misses came sporadically. The Browning Double Automatic, Browning A500 / A500R and the Beretta UGB25 Xcel used short recoil actions. Say the word Benelli and most hunters think of the Super Black Eagle II, a staple in the waterfowler's gun rack.Now upland bird hunters have a Benelli all their own, the new Ethos.. The A400 isn't near the gun the Beretta A390 was and the discontinued A303 series and the discontinued A390 models remain Beretta's toughest, most durable autoloaders. Capacity: 4+1 The Benelli Montefeltro is known to withstand hundreds of thousands of rounds with no failures, and is famous as an ultra-reliable semi-auto shotgun for high volume shooting sports. December 9, … The 14 3/8-inch length of pull works well for my long arms. Ergonomics: * * * * * On the Montefeltro, this is essentially impossible as the magazine tube is "sealed". Choke tubes, furniture, magazine cap weights, colored control pieces and aftermarket metal trigger guards. When Benelli rolled out the Super Black Eagle in the early 1990s, I was smitten. Mine came with 5 chokes and the stock shims. That plastic trigger guard keeps this gun from being 4.5 stars. ... Montefeltro Silver Featherweight Shotguns . This is evidenced by the various Vinci Limited models that have plummeted in retail price to a thousand dollars or so. Domination through superior engineering, Benelli Ruger KP345, S&W Sigma .40VE, RIA 1911 .38super/9mm, Walther SP22M2, Ruger K10/22 22" and an 18.5", .50, Wolf Magnum .50, Benelli Montefeltro M2, Benelli Cordoba, Benelli Nova 20ga Bantam, Remington 870 SuperMag 3 1/2, Para USA P18.9. After a year, I carefully cut the stock to the right length. Length of Pull: 14 3/8″ (M2 has probably seen a little more use but still looks new). “If anyone is reading this and hasn’t tried sporting clays, it’s like golf, but better because guns.”. As it turns out, though, the Ethos has . Buy Benelli USA Recoil Pads & Combs online now at the official Benelli USA factory Gear Store. Since that day in June I’ve shot five-stand, trap, and sporting clays with the Montefeltro. This gun would absolutely be a winner if you’re walking miles of upland grassland looking for game birds. That shotgun definitely balances nicely and is a pleasure to shoot. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Good read! On close examination you can spot the polymer trigger guard. ... Ethos Upland Performance Shop. They function dirty or wet and the only thing that tends to stop them is running them dry. Going out Sunday with the Wife’s 20! Especially if hunting in/over water. . Again, rather than fix these potential issues, Benelli again wants you to buy a brand new gun, the Ethos, which is too light and too expensive to have mainstream appeal. It wasn't that tough, for a 2-3/4 inch chamber was all that was needed or wanted, lead was shot at everything and something like a Browning A-5 Light Twelve 12 gauge bored modified choke did it all. I already knew I wanted something in 20 gauge. Benelli Ethos: Good, the Bad, the Ugly. It had been close to 20 years since I last shot clay birds. A great way to spend quality time with friends and family, too. At the center like so many of Benelli's finest, is the renowned Interia Driven System. How often to clean a shotgun means, to some people, when it stops working and not before. Barrel length: 26 inch ventilated rib (24 inch available) The Benelli brand has several solid inertia guns that are very well known. 100% with over 1,000 light target loads. It has an excellent trigger, 2000 round recommended gas piston cleaning intervals and is the softest shooting shotgun in its weight bracket, edging out the Winchester SX3 and Browning Maxus. Chokes: Benelli Crio choke tubes (IC, M and F) The core of this exceptional firearm is our ultra-reliable, time-tested Inertia Driven ® System, which makes the ETHOS a joy to shoot and easy to maintain. Both shooters were able to point and shoot the Benelli well, but the shorter armed shooters tended to reach for my daughter’s Browning when given the choice. If you read my review of the Browning you saw that I mentioned I have a touch of OCD when it comes to cleaning guns. The high(ish) price tag may have some potential buyers shying away. I'm not sure what method Benelli uses for finishing their wood on the Montefeltro, but there are a lot of sprayed/dipped finish options for wood that aren't especially cost-intensive. While I typically would prefer a 50/50 pattern, I’ve trained myself to hold a little low with close in pigeons. Lesson: be sure to pattern each shotgun so you know its natural point of aim. It is a great buy for the money and a good gun in general. Full length raised and/or ventilated ribs were very popular on double-barreled guns. For those who get worn out with the funny colored receivers, Cole Gunsmithing can anodize your A400 receiver into a strikingly good looking gun. The change was dramatic as I went from competitive in my class to winning the overall league once By now, most have heard of (or experienced) the "Benelli click" and the "Benelli thumb." The 20 gauge weighs only six pounds. For a medium priced, soft shooting gun in a seven to 7-1/4 pound 12 gauge, consider the Remington V3, Winchester SX-3, Browning Silver, or Browning Maxus. In fact, Monte 20s seem to be scarcer that hen’s teeth. Browse the complete selection of current Benelli shotgun and rifle recoil pads and combs, Including the ComforTech and ComforTech Plus pads and combs. Benelli Super Black Eagle II, 26 inch barrel (#10107, synthetic stock w/Max-4 HD Camo, 2009 MSRP $1759) The Benelli SBE II out of the box weighed in at 7.25 pounds, with a trigger breaking at 5.3 pounds. There are more advanced gas autoloaders out there, at least the way some choose to look at it. The Monte has a deep blue finish on its cryogenically treated barrel with a matching blue anodized finish on the receiver. The walnut versions are great looking guns, as befits a Weatherby. Perfectly average. Per the Benelli website, since 1967. Thanks for the replys, I hope this is a good board. I love the timing of that photo showing the broken clay, nice shooting. Benelli Ethos boasts of an operating system that is inertia driven and was manufactured by Benelli back in the 70s. The classic Auto-Five would be very costly to produce today and we do not like making adjustments to autoloaders based on load intensity. This operating system dominates centerfire autoloading handguns and was the system used by the famous Maxim machine gun, but it has never sold well when applied to shotguns. Doesn’t mean anything but it’s a great gun and I am impressed with their Comfortech stock system, but less so with their Progressive Comfort attempt found on the Ethos. Sometimes, we like to make things more complicated than we need to. Nevertheless, the Vinci rates as a good gun, if you don't mind its peculiarities and somewhat alarming aesthetics. Nevertheless, as this is written in 2016, most of the problems in the 12 gauge models have been eliminated, although the sub-gauges are not yet ready for prime time. I really enjoy shooting this shotgun, although my last time out with it was laughable, Im glad another TTAGer and his daughter could help out for the photo shoots. I haven’t seen a 20 at that price either. Guns & Ammo contribitor Skip Knowles introduces the Benelli Ethos 12-gauge shotgun. Benelli cryogenically treats barrels and choke tubes to increase pattern density. Browning later licensed the design to Savage, who produced it from 1930-1949 as their Model 720. But I remember the first one very well. The Mossberg 930 12 gauge is a fairly heavy and bulky gun. Specifications: Benelli Montefeltro Shotgun, Gauge: 20 (12 gauge available) The Italians can be a stubborn lot and the goofy, nearly impossible to replace recoil pad (a hold-over from the Franchi I-12) is something that should be lost in favor of a conventionally shaped pad. I chose the Montefeltro because this is the same model that Argentine dove hunters are given as loaners where they often see thousands of rounds cycled through the gun in a week. I bought the Monti because on reviews like this and what I read about with the Argentina bird hunting reliability , (shoot a 1/2 million + rounds without a problem…) . The Ethos combines the reliability of the proven inertia operating system with light recoil and fast handling, all necessities when a rooster bolts from a cornrow or bobwhites whir out of a … Using a patterning board, I discovered this gun throws a 60/40 pattern (60% of the pellets above point of aim, 40% below.) Customization: * * *  You can post now and register later. However, it is priced right, a soft shooter and has a very good track record. Join the conversation. Nice Ralph. When I finally uncased the firearm and stepped to the firing line I felt like it had been in my hands many times before. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Inertia guns are high recoil compared to gas guns, but as there is no gas system to clean and they need scant little maintenance. 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